What would a rebuilt Margate boardwalk look like? Glenn Klotz & the Margate Boardwalk Committee have posted a spectacular rendering. Wow.
Contrary to what the naysayers are spouting, over 80% of the proposed Margate Boardwalk is pretty far away from the bulkheads & beachfront homes.
Placement of a rebuilt Margate Boardwalk would roughly follow the backside of the Army Corp dune. Protected by the dune. High enough to enjoy the ocean view. Connected to most street-end bulkheads.
Lori Friedman: Question, based on this picture, looks like the BW would be right by the dune. Most set backs will not have an issue. But what happens to the streets that have homes right by the dunes? ex: Nassau, Rumson, etc? Glenn Klotz responds: 80% of Margate Boardwalk would have plenty of buffer between boardwalk and homes. (See graphic) For comparison, 70 % of Ventnor’s boardwalk is right next to their bulkhead. For the few people that object to a boardwalk, many more would be happy to have a home closer to the boardwalk.
Samantha Lyn: It looks really nice. What happens when a hurricane comes rolling in? Is it gonna last?
Glenn Klotz: Margate’s original boardwalk had no berm/dune to protect it. Plus, the Margate beach in 1944 wasn’t anywhere near as wide as it is today. Will it have some exposure to storms? Of course. But let’s look at the last BIG storm. Hurricane Sandy didn’t damage Ventnor or AC’s boardwalks. So, no. I wouldn’t be so concerned about losing a boardwalk….the way we lost the one in 1944.
If you take a close look at the 1944 event, we didn’t lose all of our boardwalk, even in that storm. Enough of it was lost though, that the City of Margate decided to remove what remained. Different time. Different circumstances.
Martin Kalish: I hope that the boardwalk is built. No more driving to Ventnor to walk the boards.
Marc Wiser: How about a park or play ground in the dead zone? Glenn Klotz: In Ventnor, they have parks and playgrounds in certain areas behind the BW. No reason why not.
Mark Lovett: I am sold on the boardwalk after seeing what it might look like.
Wildwood: Boardwalks are streets. Transportation funding could help rebuild Margate Boardwalk?
Democratic lawmakers unveiled a $40 million proposal to fund repairs to the Wildwood Boardwalk. The money — $4 million a year for the next 10 years — would come from the Transportation Trust Fund, money usually dedicated to fixing New Jersey roads, bridges and mass transit systems. “This funding is a crucial investment in one of New Jersey’s top tourism-related economic generators,” state Sen. Bob Andrzejczak, a Democrat who represents Cape May County and parts of Atlantic and Cumberland counties, said in a statement. “The Wildwood Boardwalk is an historic attraction that serves as the backbone of the community and the region.”
David Gardner: 100% in favor. I see it adding value to both the residential and commercial values.
Totally agree with you David! A new Boardwalk in Margate is a win win for Margate and for the region.
My family would to have a boardwalk instead of going to Ventnor .
Dam better than the golf and water park.
When would it be built and how long would it take to build.
The more important question is how much will our fearless leaders (all three of them) skim from these contracts. Eyes wide open folks, it will cost 2X as much and take 2X longer to complete. This is how any level of government works.
Rocco’s numbers are a tad off… regular construction costs 2X as much & takes 2X longer… city projects cost 3X as much & take 3X longer… just look to the firehouse or city hall !!! There’s really no need to skim when it’s far easier & far less risky simply to engage in legalized larceny. Will Rogers astutely noted that the only time the public is safe from wholesale larceny is when Congress is not in session. Nepotism & patronage are rife in Margate. Essentially, you have the tail wagging the dog. Locals comprising barely a third of the population financially rape, rob & pillage the shoobies especially those beach front, beach block & bay front. It’s bad enough the 3 Amigos/3 Banditos have saddled these folks with butt ugly dunes, but they now want to erect a honky tonk boardwalk to placate a minority of folks who think they can soak the rich. Dan Gottlieb is 100% correct when he predicts the rich will lawyer up big time. Just watch the 3 Banditos squander a quarter million dollars in legal fees rather than do it in-house. If these 3 turkeys had even an ounce of common sense, they’d take a dive & respond to plaintiffs’ pleadings: admitted, admitted, admitted… except denied so far as paying plaintiffs’ legal fees.
The 3 Banditos seem to have amnesia and can’t recall their campaign planks & pledges… maybe they can get a group rate at Meadowview ! Their 3 campaign mailings last spring stipulated and assured:
1) “making sure government works effectively & efficiently.”
2) “have demonstrated fiscal restraint & responsibility with your tax dollars. Their record proves it”
3) “have an established track record of fiscal responsibility”
Blowing $24+ million on a boardwalk is bonded indebtedness no one wants or needs !
Fiscal responsibility calls for a no-go from the get-go !
The Wildwood $40 million funding was vetoed by the Governor so it cannot serve as a likely precedent for a duplicate funding being available to Margate.
Disgrace. Fortunately there is no money and no community support for this pipe dream monstrosity. Love the mini golf. Have no idea who wants a water park.
Are you sure there is no community support? If so, enlighten the rest of us all with your source for that claim.
Klotz and friends are spending lots of time and energy to sell an expensive project many do not want. Many unseen costs like fire police costs not figured into the committee’s estimates and not covered by government grants
Many might not, but maybe the majority does. Our immediate goal is to find that out one way or another whether you like it or not.
It is too late now to view the hoards of junior high and high school kids loitering on the beach and bulkheads from Thursday to Sunday night during the summer. They are there well past the 10:00 PM curfew, using foul language and screaming. The police will have to patrol the boardwalk as well as underneath it. Please do make their job any more difficult to do. Use funds to have more shuttles to get seniors and the handicapped over the dunes. A boardwalk would only be an added obstacle in getting over those dunes.
I do not understand this push for a boardwalk. Why now? I have been a resident since 1955 and have not heard complaints regarding not having a boardwalk. Leave Margate alone.
I apologize to the Margate police. It was an error in my previous comment. Please DO NOT make the job of the police any more difficult to do.
Agree with Eric. Bad idea.
When is this margate boardwalk Committee going to start building stores on this boardwalk? Is this why they are pushing this? Their hidden agenda to make money!
I have lived in snd love margate since 1950 and this scam will further add to the dunes to ruin our beloved city snd ocean views?
Use any funds to build ADA access ramps
Great points Eric. Also important to note Mr Klotz and his friends are clearly aggressively pushing this and want the most expensive BW which is specifically stated in his report: “We believe the best choice is a modern, uniquely Margate style, residential(non-commercial) boardwalk” He goes on to list that includes 3-4 Pavilions with seating, 27 ft wide, showers, restrooms, water fountains and foot baths. There are already lots of bus trips to AC from places like Brooklyn and Bronx etc. This certainly would be attractive to out of town day-trippers with all of these amenities in Margate just like what is happening in Wissahickon park.
Philadelphia’s Wissahickon is slammed with millions of visitors, increasing trash, noise, risks
by Frank Kummer, Updated: August 24, 2019
A big green tour bus carrying passengers from Brooklyn stopped in Philadelphia on a recent weekend, disgorging passengers into the middle of Wissahickon Valley Park. The group lugged generators to inflate their creek floats, set up grills, and cranked up the music, according to park volunteers, who say such scenes are becoming more common in what had once been a more peaceful place known mostly to locals.
Between April and July they addressed up to 230 incidents of illegal parking, blocking driveways, walking unleashed dogs, smoking, making fires, swimming, alcohol use, loud music, littering, and curfew violations. Typically, they do not issue citations, preferring to educate. When they do issue citations, it’s usually for parking violations. There are concerns about the dramatic surge in visits on a city park. Some are coming from North Jersey, New York, Maryland, Connecticut, and beyond, but many also come from Philadelphia and its suburbs.
Great points Eric. Also important to note Mr Klotz and his friends are clearly aggressively pushing this and want the most expensive BW which is specifically stated in his report: “We believe the best choice is a modern, uniquely Margate style, residential(non-commercial) boardwalk” He goes on to list that includes 3-4 Pavilions with seating, 27 ft wide, showers, restrooms, water fountains and foot baths. There are already lots of bus trips to AC from places like Brooklyn and Bronx etc. This certainly would be attractive to out of town day-trippers with all of these amenities in Margate just like what is happening in Wissahickon park.
Philadelphia’s Wissahickon is slammed with millions of visitors, increasing trash, noise, risks
: August 24, 2019
A big green tour bus carrying passengers from Brooklyn stopped in Philadelphia on a recent weekend, disgorging passengers into the middle of Wissahickon Valley Park. The group lugged generators to inflate their creek floats, set up grills, and cranked up the music, according to park volunteers, who say such scenes are becoming more common in what had once been a more peaceful place known mostly to locals.
Between April and July they addressed up to 230 incidents of illegal parking, blocking driveways, walking unleashed dogs, smoking, making fires, swimming, alcohol use, loud music, littering, and curfew violations. Typically, they do not issue citations, preferring to educate. When they do issue citations, it’s usually for parking violations. There are concerns about the dramatic surge in visits on a city park. Some are coming from North Jersey, New York, Maryland, Connecticut, and beyond, but many also come from Philadelphia and its suburbs.
Your comments are accusing the Committee of underhand motives. You are also comparing a Philadelphia problem to your unfounded and baseless fears.
All the committee wants is for Margate officials to poll ALL taxpayers of Margate to see if a boardwalk is wanted by a vast majority.
If yes then a voting on a referendum by the voters of Margate. If a majority viotes yes then we move on . If not then it dies.
If you are not ok with democracy then I feel bad for you.
The 3 Amigos are the furthest thing from a democracy. Yes, they get elected but given the minimal amount permanent residents that actually vote, they are just about guaranteed victory just with the patronage jobs. They are beyond corrupt and those that don’t think so are delusional.